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Friday, July 3rd, 2009 02:17 pm
a new userpic for the syriacists. It was the most compact thing I could figure out how to say. Let me know if there's anything erroneous about it.
Friday, July 3rd, 2009 11:35 pm (UTC)
Do you ever use any im systems any more? zephyr, jabber, gtalk?
Friday, July 3rd, 2009 11:45 pm (UTC)
not unless you count twitter
Saturday, July 4th, 2009 09:58 am (UTC)
What does it say? May I ask?
Saturday, July 4th, 2009 12:01 pm (UTC)
"no god but god"
Friday, August 7th, 2009 10:25 pm (UTC)
Yeah! That's great. Are you aiming for it to be Syriac, or Garshuni (Arabic in Syriac letters) since it is the first half of the Muslim shahada? In the Garshuni case, you should drop the lomadh at the beginning of the last word (in Arabic this would always be written with a double-sign over the middle lomadh, but Syriac has no way of marking the double-sign): ܠܐ ܐܠܗ ܐܠܐ ܐܠܗ. In the true Syriac case, then in addition to dropping the initial lomadh of the final word, you should add a definite olaph to the end: ܠܐ ܐܠܗ ܐܠܐ ܐܠܗܐ. Unfortunately, both will require changing the userpic.

But where did you get Syriac scrabble pieces?!
Saturday, August 8th, 2009 01:01 pm (UTC)
It should be Syriac, not Garshuni. Thanks for the correction! I was most uncertain about ܐܠܗ vs. ܐܠܗܐ . But regarding the initial ܠ, I thought it was needed to get "except" rather than "unless": -ܐܠܐ ܠ , per the last mention in the Payne Smith dictionary entry for ܐܠܐ . Is one usage much more common than the other?

I made them! or rather, I designed them, a coworker with a computer-controlled woodmill cut them, then I painted, sanded, and poly-ed them. I actually have an extra set cut out (but not finished), because it was easy to do extras once the mill was set up, to use up all the wood I bought. I based the distribution/scores on the Hebrew Scrabble set sold in Israel (not the one sold in the US, which is universally agreed be be inferior), adjusted per the recommendations of a friend-of-a-friend who was familiar with both Hebrew and Aramaic.
Saturday, August 8th, 2009 01:17 pm (UTC)
oh, you were saying that even for -ܐܠܐ ܠ, the ܠ gets elided into the following one?
Saturday, August 8th, 2009 01:32 pm (UTC)
ok. the word order is less clear to read in the new version, but it's less wrong. Thanks so much!
Saturday, August 8th, 2009 07:20 pm (UTC)
"Except" is also the fourth gloss J. Payne-Smith gives for ܐܠܐ by itself. I don't know what she's basing her definition of ܐܠܐ ܠ on, but I don't think I've ever seen it (except in the case where ܠ indicates possession in parallel with a possessive ܠ in the clause preceding).

Cool that you were able to make those tiles! Sorry it messes up the userpic, but it's cool it still works!
Saturday, August 8th, 2009 07:24 pm (UTC)
And may I ask why you changed your lj title to the chief wife of Tolui and the mother of Mongke, Kublai, Hulegu, and Ariq-boke? It's a great title, mind you! I'm just curious since I just took general exams on the religions of the Mongol Empire (1206-1405), and how to interpret Sorqaqtani Beki is an important debate... =-)
Sunday, August 9th, 2009 08:07 pm (UTC)
Two reasons:
1. She's awesome. That's cool about your exams. Is there any book or article you can point me to that tries to talk about what being Christian meant to her and her family? I imagine the kind of evidence we have is along the lines of name studies, gravestones, artifacts. What little I've been able to dig up is just that they were recommended to eat yogurt instead of meat for lent because they didn't eat plants at all.
2. I was tired of having to misspell the handle I wanted because it was already taken, so when I signed up with twitter, I picked her because there's no end of variant spellings for her name.